tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10680113.post1608568838321393193..comments2024-03-23T11:40:13.092-05:00Comments on Musical Assumptions: DisciplineElaine Finehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14248422399226824168noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10680113.post-77211424846723153482010-03-28T20:41:00.500-05:002010-03-28T20:41:00.500-05:00Foucault? Governmentality don't explain the ma...Foucault? Governmentality don't explain the massive ineptness of political leadership which has brought such debt as we see in government today. If the notion of neo-liberalism is really about a limited state, limited by individualism and self-regulating elements within a society being created, I'd say the politics which has brought the state, its municipalities and school districts into unsustainable debt is neither self-regulating nor representative a neo-liberal, and therefore limited state. Rather, the abuse of debt until it has become an avalanche seems the opposite. Where's the sense in fancy philosophic words, when the bill comes due. Pay or go broke. Where does Foucault fits into this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10680113.post-72555501394196654492010-03-28T14:21:02.055-05:002010-03-28T14:21:02.055-05:00I hesitate to bring French post-structuralism into...I hesitate to bring French post-structuralism into this, but Foucault might have a lot to say on this topic. ("Discipline and Punish")<br /><br />Very interesting thoughts and discussion.Zachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10680113.post-21854629911865983392010-03-28T11:31:02.749-05:002010-03-28T11:31:02.749-05:00Politicians, and the people who benefit from the &...Politicians, and the people who benefit from the "workings" of politicians. It has been going on for a long time here, and both parties are, indeed responsible. I read a bumper sticker once that said "Illinois--where our governors make our license plates." And the Illinois teachers' union endorsed our last one, the one with the big hair.Elaine Finehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248422399226824168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10680113.post-44745948213345764642010-03-28T11:02:09.142-05:002010-03-28T11:02:09.142-05:00"The people who allowed the state to get in r..."The people who allowed the state to get in real financial trouble" are our politicians. All of them, it seems, and of both parties. Now what? Will music in the schools be dumped completely to pay pensions for people not teaching at all and upper class politicians with fat pensions? It is a sad day for art.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10680113.post-73445146284916327842010-03-28T07:47:33.623-05:002010-03-28T07:47:33.623-05:00The state of Illinois is a mess right now, and the...The state of Illinois is a mess right now, and the future is very dim for music education students (especially string players) who used to rely on successful string programs like the one in Naperville for potential jobs. <br /><br />But that's just the tip of the iceberg. All the people in the Illinois educational system, students and teachers from elementary school through college, have to pay for the follies (and, perhaps lack of discipline) of the people who allowed the state to get in real financial trouble. <br /><br />Again, it is the word "discipline" as "punishment" that is taking away from the "discipline" of teaching and learning.Elaine Finehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248422399226824168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10680113.post-70752291305431593192010-03-27T15:08:01.876-05:002010-03-27T15:08:01.876-05:00"In recent weeks, state education funding woe..."In recent weeks, state education funding woes have triggered a tsunami of pink slips to thousands upon thousands of teachers and support staff in school districts statewide, with about 9,800 announced layoffs of teachers so far. Another 1,600 retiring teachers won't be replaced." From the Chicago Sun-Times, 27 March 2010. Is this fiscal discipline, or fiscal punishment, and if the later, where will Illinois get more money? From cancelling more music programs? It seems very, very likely, given Naperville firings last monthy and the string programs' cancellations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com